New York's 1880 UFO inspired close encounter of the third kind

New York’s 1880 UFO inspired close encounter of the third kind


In the remote hills of New York State, there may have been an unreported Close Encounter of the Third Kind (CEIII).* This may seem unremarkable until it’s revealed that the event occurred in the latter half of the 19th Century. You read that correctly; this particular incident is said to have happened around 1880–more than half a century before Roswell and the sci-fi hysteria of little green (or grey) men.

Passed down through the generations by their younger brother as an unusual family tale, the story is set in the remote hills near Cameron, New York (then known as Cameron Mills), in April of 1880. Two sisters named Elizabeth and Eva were on a long hike to their district’s one-room school house one day, accompanied by a few other children. But as the group approached a small bridge crossing a small stream, they noticed something peculiar on the opposite side. Clustered from the bridge down the embankment to the creek were a small group of what they called “little people”. The beings motioned for the children to continue across the bridge, but “…their parents had cautioned them to wary of strangers” so instead, the children ran home as fast as they could.

A typical 19th century one-room schoolhouse.

A typical 19th century one-room schoolhouse.

Goblins? Leprechauns? Evacuees from the Hopkinsville Cave? Or were they perhaps from somewhere out of this world?


How the children described these beings is very unusual, indeed. The were said to be “small, skinny, and oddly colored” in a greyish tone. They wore skin-tight, metallically shiny clothing (alien Lycra®?)and possessed abnormally long, spindly fingers. In short, they seem to echo the classic modern description of alien greys found in stories of both Roswell and the Betty & Barney Hill abduction. Yet this story is said to predate even the earliest science fiction stories mentioning grey beings.

Somehow, the children managed to keep this strange tale to themselves, though it’s possible that their parents cautioned them against telling anyone about what they saw for fear of seeming crazy. But these two girls did share the encounter with their younger brother who passed it down through the generations to modern times. One of the descendants then told the story to Syracuse News Times reporter Cheryl Costa who wrote about it last year.

Not content with this minimal information, I decided to do some research.

A postcard depiction of downtown Woodhull, New York, as it appeared in the late 1800s.

A postcard depiction of downtown Woodhull, New York, (south of Cameron) as it appeared in the late 1800s.

According to records taken by the US Census Bureau in 1880, only two families in all of Steuben County had daughters named Elizabeth and Eva at the time of the incident. Elizabeth and Eva Coburn, aged 9 and 14 years respectively, lived near Wheeler (about 4 miles north of Bath, NY); Elizabeth (20) and Eva (16) Collins lived near the tiny hamlet of Woodhull southeast of Cameron by approximately 10 miles. Given their distances from Cameron, it’s more likely that Elizabeth and Eva Collins may have been the women involved (though Elizabeth died in 1897 and was a post office clerk, not a teacher, as was her daughter Bessie). They also had a younger brother named John who was 13 at the time of the incident. Given the number of hills and streams in the area south of Cameron, it’s quite feasible for someone to take a long walk to the nearest schoolhouse crossing at least one bridge.

I spoke with Cheryl by email in an attempt to gather more information and mentioned what I had found. She stated that it occurred “between 1880 and 1884” (even though a second article pinpointed it to April 1880). According to her, she uses aliases in her articles, adding, “I discussed your letter with [the] family member who I interviewed and at her request, I respectfully ask that you not try and identify the girls further.” Both girls went on to become schoolteachers in New York State, but no further information or responses were given.

Old dirt roads like this one south of Cameron show how isolated some areas walked by children really were.

Old dirt roads like this one south of Cameron show how isolated parts of this area still are.

Whether I accidentally identified the girls correctly or came too close to people indirectly involved is anyone’s guess; as for why after at least 130 years identifying the exact location and names of the two girls is still verboten is an even more puzzling enigma. Surely, a century is long enough time for the identities of these women to safe from ridicule. While “grandma saw an alien” might not be someone’s idea of the best claim to fame, the sheer lack of detail and specifics detracts from the story on a damaging level. If someone were to come forward with an exact name, exact location, and any additional pertinent information, it would elevate the incident from an amusing family folk tale to a verifiable incident. Worthy of a MUFON file this story at face value is not.

Exactly what happened, if anything, in Steuben County that spring day? Without further explanation and more details, no one might ever know. But we can always hope that someone who knows something–or relatives of another such witness–might be brave enough not to care what someone might say about one of their late relatives and at least release some facts which can be historically verified to give a bit of credence to their family tale.

*More specifically, a CEIII Subtype E–An entity is observed, but no UFOs are seen and no UFO activity has been reported in the area at that time–according to Ted Bloecher’s addition to the Hynek Classification System.


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  1. ash

    02/27/2015 at 10:43 AM

    so why not keep digging?you were asked to stop.not forced or threaten with a lawsuit.

    • Ken Summers

      03/16/2015 at 5:35 AM

      I haven’t completely given up, but there are limits to my research capabilities given the vagueness of the information I have. Still, I think I’ve made a major dent in it. Using the names given as “aliases”, I could narrow it down to one specific family living in the area at the time. If the girls had different names, though, that requires using only rough ages to pour over the area census records from 1880 which may result in another hit or two, but it gives no concrete way to verify exactly who was involved with 100% confidence. Beyond that, trying to locate the exact bridge without knowing the path taken is next to impossible.

      This is always my dilemma when dealing with these historical stories. Newspapers, atlases, census records, and other archived documents can only bring you so far when it’s a family oral history. If I had a dollar for every tale that led to a dead end due to uncooperative descendants, I’d be a millionaire by now. I sat on this story for months after being asked to stop, but ultimately felt that divulging what I had found would be best. I’m never satisfied by just going with what information is publicly provided about a story, and in a way, by writing this article, I’m trying to let people know that if you’re persistent enough and willing to do some research, you can find more answers to just about any tale. An unfortunate side effect, though, is that some stories cannot always be fully uncovered… and some reports of alleged newspaper accounts turn out to be elusive to find in their original form.

    • Jer

      04/18/2015 at 1:40 AM

      Why wouldn’t simple respect for the privacy of the family involved be sufficient to retreat from an investigation? It sounds as if your need to expose delicious little mysteries takes precedence over the needs of of others. A little paparazzi in your blood? Ride roughshod over anyone/anything to get what you want? I’d like to be wrong about that, Ash.

      Good on you, Mr. Summers; it’s still a good story. Besides, answers can sometimes kill a story. I think I might consider joining the one-way train to Mars if all things one Earth were already known. At least on Mars, there are apt to be a zillion + 6 mysteries we could solve.

      • Ken Summers

        04/18/2015 at 2:25 AM

        For me, it’s not about being some kind of paparazzi or trying to ruin anyone’s right to privacy. After 130+ years, you would think something like a name, date, and exact location isn’t asking for too much. It’s about verification of facts and seeing if someone knows additional information, or seeing if other incidents could stem from the same place to try to better understand what happened.

        I’m the first to admit that mystery is intriguing, but I don’t think that trying to solve mysteries should take anything away from it. Earth is full of countless mysteries and I don’t see every single one being resolved. But deep down, this isn’t about mystery, it’s about precedence. Finding documented stories of strange occurrences that alter the accepted timeline of when similar incidents are said to have started can be a game changer in the world of Forteana.

  2. fuzzy rounds

    03/20/2015 at 1:05 AM

    Good article, however it seems unlikely there would be an automobile of that type on a street prior to the turn of the century.

  3. Killer

    03/21/2015 at 4:55 PM

    Come on guys this dealing with a dangerous bipedal wolf that that is fucking dangerous more dangerous than a vampire and it weakness is silver my brother think he is a werewolf

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