Getting Attacked by a Ghost Changed My Opinions on the Paranormal

When Ghosts Attack: How Getting Scratched by an Invisible Monster Changed My Opinions on the Paranormal

Greg Newkirk attacked by a ghost at Ohio State Reformatory

Imagine, if you will, four people locked into a dark room hidden on the upper floor of a decommissioned prison notorious for its restless spirits. As they attempt to speak to the ghosts that inhabit the walls, one of the would-be paranormal investigators, a former inmate, takes on a stern tone and begins to taunt the entity in the windowless room. As the scene plays out in the muted tones of night vision cameras, one of the ghost hunters suddenly clutches his back. As the investigators rush toward him, he complains of a burning sensation while lifting his shirt, revealing three fresh red claw marks running across his spine. It appears he was attacked by a ghost.

No, I’m not giving you a play-by-play of the latest episode of Ghost Adventures. Believe it or not, I’m recounting exactly what happened to me last month, far from clipboard carrying producers or enraged men in tiny Tapout shirts. It’s an experience that has had me aggressively reconsidering my opinions on the paranormal.

I never believed that ghosts could hurt you

Ohio State Reformatory

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My brush with the more touchy-feely side of the supernatural happened in Ohio State Reformatory, a historic prison known for being a set piece in The Shawshank Redemption and Con Air, but more recently as a favorite location of reality television shows like Ghost Adventures. Interestingly enough, the whole reason I was at OSR was in support of the Nick Groff Tour, a cross-country ghost hunting tour featuring Nick Groff, who not only starred in, but Executive Produced a decade of Ghost Adventures.

I won’t go into too much detail surrounding the event (Dana wrote a detailed breakdown of the evidence we captured at Ohio State Reformatory, including video footage of the actual “entity attack” itself), but its been almost a month since an invisible appendage reached out from the darkness and left its mark on me, and I’ve still been fairly quiet about my side of the whole thing. The only reason for that is, to be perfectly honest, I’m still pretty rattled by the whole ordeal and have needed some time to process it.

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You see, I’ve been actively chasing down the strange and the unexplained for nearly two decades. While instances like this are few and far between, in that time I’ve heard disembodied voices whisper in my ear, watched books levitate and fly through the air, and even dragged a man out of a haunted church after a pair of invisible hands choked him to the ground. Heck, Dana and I have a few pieces in the Traveling Museum of the Paranormal and the Occult that often remind us they’re haunted. My point is, I’m no stranger to weirdness. But in 18 years of active paranormal investigation, nothing has ever physically hurt me. Not once. In fact, before that night at OSR, I’d only been physically touched by something I couldn’t explain once, and despite that being one of the most personally terrifying things to ever happen to me, it didn’t hurt a bit.

I was always of the popular mindset that ghosts can’t hurt you, believing that the stories of scratches from an unseen force were just fodder for reality television, the product of an overactive imagination, or a forgotten brush with a rusty nail in an abandoned house. That’s not to say I didn’t want to believe it. Even as I was dragging a documentary camera man out of the Church of the Damned in 2003, I couldn’t shake the thought that maybe he wasn’t being attacked by a ghost, but was having an allergic reaction, or an asthma attack, or maybe even playing it up for the camera. The hand-shaped welts on his neck said otherwise, but I remained skeptical.

Now, I’m not so sure anymore.

Pushed and scratched by a ghostly hand in the dark

Greg Newkirk after being pushed by a "Ghost" in Ohio State Reformatory

When I was standing in OSR’s windowless room, I felt someone rush past me, pushing me out of the way like they were in a hurry. Thinking that it must have been one of the 200 other people exploring the prison on the Nick Groff Tour, I turned around to apologize, only to find my back to the wall. As my brain tried to comprehend whatever glitch it had just experienced, I began to feel an intense burning sensation in the middle of my back, the kind of burning you feel when your older brother winds up and slaps your bare skin as hard as he can. Once I mentioned it to the group, Michael Humphrey, the former OSR inmate we were exploring the prison with, turned to me and said, “I bet you got scratched… lift up your shirt.”

I couldn’t see the marks myself, but the gasps of the three others in the room was the only confirmation I needed. It appeared as though I’d been attacked by a ghost. As I ran my fingers over the raised, irritated skin on my back, I can remember yelling something to the effect of “no fucking way” over and over again. While the conversation in the room intensified, I found myself mentally rewinding the night’s previous events. Had I scratched an itch and forgotten about it? No, I wouldn’t have taken one good scratch and called it good. Had I leaned up against a jagged piece of drywall? A quick check of my jacket and shirt nixed that idea. In fact, the only physical touch my back had experienced was the feeling of someone rushing by, pushing me out of the way.

The subtle difference between natural and supernatural

Nick Groff and Greg Newkirk discuss a ghost attack at Ohio State Reformatory

Later that night, after I reluctantly joined Nick Groff on stage to display the strange marks to a hushed and horrified audience, I was sipping coffee at a Denny’s with John E.L. Tenney, a long-time anomalistic researcher and good friend, when he mentioned that he had experienced something almost identical at Whispers Estate the previous year. In fact, the entire encounter was captured on camera in Destination America’s Ghost Stalkers. First he was pushed, then came the burning sensation, then the scratches.

In his own research, Tenney has found that it’s a common chain of events, one that might help in distinguishing truly unexplainable scratches from parlor tricks and production flair. The most distinguishing piece of evidence being the fact that the scratches aren’t actually scratches, but welts.

John Tenney scratched in Whispers Estate

When someone is scratched by a stray nail, a girly-fight, or their own hand, there’s often the tell-tale remainder of white, ashy skin flakes and traces of blood, but in the case of “supernatural scratches”, the wounds seem to fit a different set of criteria. They’re free of blood, lack the powdery remainder of skin cells scraped off by fingernails, and appear as something much like burns or welts. Even more interesting is that the scratches disappear shortly thereafter, usually within hours of their appearance. These kinds of criteria aren’t simply limited to scratches either, but manifest as many other physical marks allegedly inflicted by supernatural forces.

Upon closer inspection, marks left by “ghosts” don’t conform to wounds left by physical force. They more often appear to have been left by energy, like stray electricity moving through the air, leaving behind burns and welts in its wake. To the untrained eye, the differences could easily go unnoticed, but for someone who has been keeping score as long as Tenney, it’s obvious. As he often says, what you think is weird is weirder than you think.

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Sure enough, the marks on my back seemed to fit the criteria for the truly strange, and by the time we’d left Denny’s, they were but faint streaks of red. An hour into my drive home, they had completely disappeared.

Reassessing my disbelief in the “harmful ghost”

In the weeks that followed, my “ghost attack” at Ohio State Reformatory gained a lot of attention, partially because it’s a truly creepy story with lots of evidence to back it up, but also because of my background as someone historically skeptical of paranormal attacks. In fact, I’m of the mind that half of my friends wouldn’t believe me if I hadn’t spent so many years yammering on about how fake I thought these kinds of things were, and I don’t blame them a bit. Fortunately, I don’t just have an established background to back me up. My experience occurred in plain view of three others, including a stranger, with two cameras rolling through the entire event.

Greg Newkirk and Michael Humphrey in Ohio State Reformatory

I’ve since received dozens of emails from others who had experienced their own ghostly attacks, some of them sharing disturbing images of their violent brushes with the supernatural, half of them startling because they were so similar to mine, the other half startling because they appeared to be self-inflicted. The most popular communications, though, were the ones that warned me of demonic attachment.

As someone who grew up in family of Baptist ministers, I’m no stranger to the belief that anything unexplained is the work of the devil. I was once told by a Sunday School teacher that both Bigfoot and flying saucers were tools of distraction employed by none other than Satan himself, and that all ghosts were demons set out to lead people astray. I like to think that these used to be fairly fringe beliefs held by only the most religious, but today’s entertainment trends have done a good job of convincing ghost hunters that every tickle must be a demon trying to possess them.

While I understand and appreciate the concern shown for me, for the record, I don’t believe that whatever happened to me was the work of some malevolent force. I’ve been in a few rare, terrifying situations where I’ve believed beyond the shadow of a doubt that whatever was in the room with me wanted me dead, and the experience at OSR was nothing like that. There was no air of evil, no feeling of dread, just a lot of confusion. I’m not ashamed to admit that I’ve run as fast as I can out of locations where I felt threatened, and I’ve done it more than a few times, but in Ohio State Reformatory, I was more interested in logically breaking down what I’d just experienced than I was in running for my life.

While the “ghost attack” definitely hurt me, I don’t get the impression that it was intended to do anything other than get my attention.

What really happens when ghosts attack?

Greg Newkirk's back after being attacked by a ghost

So, what happened to me in the windowless room? The short answer: I don’t know, but it was something weird. The long answer is that it’s complicated.

Before the crowd on the Nick Groff Tour was set loose into the prison, there was a big question and answer session with the crowd. After one audience member raised their hand and asked if the people on stage, comprised of Nick Groff, Tenney, Mark and Debby Constantino, and Johnny Houser, thought the physical encounters with the supernatural were actually demonic, John E.L. Tenney had a response that has continued to stick with me.

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What if you were an entity, human or not, that was trapped in a location for years, maybe centuries or more, and in all that time you’ve finally mustered up enough energy to reach out and let the living know that you’re still there. Maybe you can’t control it and it simply manifests as a set of red welts on a ghost hunter’s skin. That doesn’t make it demonic, it makes it contact.

I couldn’t tell you whether or not Tenney’s theory is the case with my experience, but it’s a compelling argument against the belief that “supernatural scratches” are the work of malevolent spirits.

Still, there are other schools of thought that these events might be psychosomatic, caused by the mind of the subject so wrapped up in the thought they might get scratched, that the marks actually manifest by the power of sheer will. Some even believe that entities can trigger this psychosomatic event at will as a way to bridge the gap of physicality between realms of existence. As someone who, like I mentioned earlier, never in a million years believed a ghost could physically hurt you, I’d be more apt to fall into the latter category.

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I’ve spent a solid month coming to terms with what happened to me that night, and I’m no closer to knowing what I experienced than I was sitting at the Denny’s several hours afterwards. What I have learned, though, is that it only takes one experience to change your mind about what’s possible when it comes to the paranormal, and that’s the kind of experience that keeps fresh batteries in your flashlight and a full tank of gas in your car. After all, it’s these kinds of opinion-changing, in some cases even life-changing, experiences that push us to seek answers to the unexplained.

Can ghosts hurt you? If you had asked me for the first 18 years of my investigations, I’d have said “probably not, at least not directly”. After Ohio State Reformatory, my answer is, “I think they can, because I experienced it”. The real question now, for me at least, is if they even mean to in the first place.


 

Do you believe that ghosts can hurt you? If so, why do you think they do it? Have you ever been attacked by a restless spirit? I’d love to hear from you. Share your thoughts with me on Facebook, tweet me @nuekerk, or leave your comments below.


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35 Comments

  1. Renee

    05/15/2015 at 11:49 AM

    I’m extremely hesitant to jump on the “demon” bandwagon, even in cases like this. I tend to think spirits are pretty much like the living; you have the good, bad, and everything in between. The difference is, they have a lot more trouble communicating, and I can see where that might lead to a very unhappy entity. Even though it is scary, getting touched, let alone scratched by an unseen hand, I don’t think it’s the devil trying to get you, maybe just some poor bastard stuck for eternity in a really depressing place.

  2. Verdia Bolster

    05/15/2015 at 12:28 PM

    I had planned to attend this event, but backed out after hearing there would be some antagonizing of spirits going on. OSR is not the safest location for women to go anyway, but I plan to investigate at another time. It’s hard to say definitively if it is demonic or not. It is my belief that not all demons are there to try and hurt every person. I think some are truly fascinated and just want contact. The same goes for people stuck in limbo. A lot has to do with frame of mind at the time. I know from personal experience it is never a good thing to aggravate spirits of any kind. I think it is more than disrespectful just to try and source “evidence.” Unfortunately is seems you were the one picked to bear the brunt of the consequence on that. I know they can hurt people, but I think the majority just want to communicate.

    • Aimee

      05/24/2015 at 4:57 PM

      I agree Verdia. The whole antagonizing thing seems like a terrible idea. Whenever I see investigators used that method I think…

      1. The investigators are plagued by too much testosterone.

      2. They have never heard about how much flies like honey.

      And…

      3. That being rude can lead to pissing off things that you don’t understand…like things that can scratch you.

  3. Coppertop

    05/15/2015 at 2:19 PM

    So, would you be willing to put yourself into that situation again?

    • Chris Fischer

      05/15/2015 at 2:48 PM

      I would if it evoked a Paranormal response. This is what we are looking for and i have been known to taunt. Sometimes it requires the right chemistry to get a spirit to manifest.

  4. Miriam

    05/15/2015 at 2:46 PM

    I have two pictures of a claw scratch I got when over at someones house that practices witchcraft. It felt bad to be there. When i got home and took off my long sleeved shirt I found two marks….. needless to say, I have never been back there.

  5. robb hamm

    05/18/2015 at 10:34 AM

    If he didn’t do it himself then its an interesting coincidence that those scratch marks are in exactly the position they would be in if he had scratched himself and the lines match the curve his hand would follow.

    • Greg Newkirk

      05/18/2015 at 10:38 AM

      It’s also interesting that I had three people surrounding me, two of them with cameras pointed at me, and my hands in my pockets the whole time. It’s also interesting that they aren’t scratches, but welts, as can be seen pretty clearly in the photographs. You try slapping your own back so hard that you get a welt. Good luck.

  6. Keb

    05/18/2015 at 12:19 PM

    Years ago when I was a child, I lived in a small town called Los Banos. My family and I lived a couple of blocks from a local cemetery, and I regularly heard strange creakings and other things growing up in the house there. It wasn’t an old house by any means, and was part of a new subdivision. I remember being extremely frightened as a young child, thinking that the house never felt safe. (the fact that I lived in an abusive household is besides he point)

    As I got older, I learned to tune it out, or just ignore it completely. Sometime between ages 11 and 13, I started noticing strange things again.

    I remember going downstairs for some reason, and looking out the window into the backyard. I thought I saw movement, but it was dark outside, so I couldn’t quite tell… and then I saw this strange, translucent, amorphous shape. It was kind of like a soap bubble with the way it seemed to trap rainbows within it, almost like an aurora, but it had this strange, milky-look to it. There were no discernible features, or limbs…it just sort of moved through the yard, and changed shape as it went. It was probably a little bigger than a soccer ball, an I watched as it floated by our fence.

    For some reason it terrified me. It was this strangely beautiful thing, but I couldn’t get over the idea that it felt evil.

    This event seems to mark when I first started having encounters with “spirits” of one variety or another.

    Sometime after that, I started hearing strange sounds outside at night. It was almost like hacking cough, but it sounded like it came from everywhere, and elicited feelings of terror. It was like its very essence was fear. Shortly after that it would feel like I couldn’t move. This always happened when I was already in bed, trying to sleep for the night. As time went on, it seemed like I was being pinned down by some unseen force. This was almost a nightly occurrence between the years 13 and 15. Sometimes I woke up with strange scratches. They started much like the welt-like scratches that you have in your photo. But as this became regular, sometimes I would wake up with scratches that were more like scratches, marks that were more like teeth. On rare occasions I woke up with what almost looked like strange animal bite-marks, with dried blood. Sometimes I was attacked on the stairs. I’d be walking up them, and suddenly be knocked over and pinned down, feeling the claws of something unknown on my back.

    I considered that some of my wounds might have been self inflicted somehow, or that maybe somehow I’d injured myself… but when you wake up in the morning and it looks like someone closed a miniature bear trap on your heel, how could that be self inflicted? I was a kid, and had nothing that could do something like that to myself. It wasn’t there when I went to bed, and was when I woke up. If I’d simply gone crazy and hurt myself with something, with as much dried blood as there was, and with how bad the wound was, there had to be some implement laying around. I looked. I never found one.

    I was convinced for the longest time that it was demons, and that God was testing me. I turned to the bible for answers, kept one in my nightstand at night, and tried doing things like reciting bible verses that I’d heard in Sunday school, etc. That didn’t work either. It just made the attacks worse.

    I don’t remember why I did it, but at some point I took my parents fireplace lighter, and started keeping it with me. When I felt its presence, I’d flip the lighter on. It seemed it didn’t like fire. As I studied mysticism later in life, I realized that this was because of what it symbolized, and that the essence of things is how they are symbolized. That’s a bit simplified, but this is a big topic to cover.

    But with that fireplace lighter, I found some shred of hope. I found some sense of power over that which had been attacking me and feeding off of my fears. This thing, had grown strong off of my fear and acknowledgement of its existence. Once I realized this, I realized that it acted like a spiritual parasite.

    I don’t know if it was a ghost, a demon, or what it was, but once I understood its nature, I was able to strip it of its power by starving it. The attacks reached the worst point they ever had. This thing needed me to fear it. It used its remaining power to try to attack me during the daylight- the one time I had previously felt safe. At one point I was outside lounging in the sun by the pool, and it tried to chuck me into it.

    It started influencing people around me, showing me its power, and why it was something to be feared. (this only really happened once, where my parents were drained and fell asleep in the middle of the day while it attacked and I tried unsuccessfully to wake them up.)

    It did whatever it could to trip me up, to startle me, to make me afraid so that my fear would feed it. But over time, its energy depleted from these outbursts and it was no longer even able to mark me.

    I don’t know if it died, or just left. By the point that I had discovered that it was afraid of fire, I had started studying western occult philosophy, and mysticism. Some people might have called me a witch if they knew. But honestly, I was just a girl looking for answers, and learning how to develop my will, ego (which had been crushed from years of parental abuse) and focus enough to dominate the thing that was trying to dominate me.

    The Tibetans have a word for an entity that is formed from your thoughts and emotions. They call it a Tulpa. Other people call them thought-forms. While I don’t know for certain if that is what this was, or if it was just a spirit that attached itself to me as a parasite; I do know that this thing existed, and that it haunted me, and hurt me for several years until I was able to identify its nature as a parasite and weaken it.

    All of this happened before everyone had a phone with a camera. I wrote things down, but I had no other way to document them at the time. I assume that as time goes on, there will be more and more people showing photographic evidence of their wounds and terrifying experiences involving them. If wounds look possibly self inflicted, but people are claiming a supernatural cause…please don’t dismiss them outright. It could be that they, like myself, encountered something that had built up enough “energy” to manifest in a more physical, and terrifying way.

  7. Frank

    05/18/2015 at 1:24 PM

    I was attacked by a ghost, if that is the right word to use to describe what happened. I was standing completely still in the back shop of my small retail premises at around 7 a.m. one morning, drinking a cup of tea. No-one else was in the shop and my feet momentarily left the ground, not by an unseen force as such, but by a massive thump under the floor where I was standing. There was nothing under the floor that could have caused this, no equipment, machinery etc., just an empty space. It was as if someone had taken a sledgehammer and hit under where I was standing with as much force as they could muster. I had previous paranormal experiences in the premises and was told by a psychic friend that you can speak to spirits but, of course, they won’t answer back! I immediately ran downstairs and told it to leave me alone and stop frightening me. It never happened again. A very strange experience.

  8. RA

    05/18/2015 at 3:22 PM

    You don’t go taunt people or dead people. You don’t go bother them, either. You don’t show up in their house and yell at people, you don’t try to look under their floors to find whatever is hiding, and if your place has spirits that need help you go find someone who can quietly come in and help them.

    And just because you get scratched it doesn’t have to be some demon. Seriously? Maybe someone wants you to get out and stop harassing him or her, you know?

    I don’t mean to be rude, but I have little sympathy for people who go into dark places (umm, they are still there all day, so no need to stumble around in the dark), annoy whoever might happen to there, go in unprotected and unknowing about helping those who need it or leaving them alone.

    I could say that if you go into a stranger’s house and start bothering people you will most likely end up shot, so scratching is pretty mild comparatively. And of course some can hurt you, just like some living people can.

    Why go scream at people or look for demons where there likely aren’t any? Don’t you think the poor people who were trapped there have suffered enough?? Geez. They aren’t demons…they are tortured spirits who want to be helped or left alone, and yeah, some might be angry and/or unbalanced, just like living people. So why treat them like circus freaks and try to make them perform?

    And yes, I know what I am talking about, and no, I don’t go harass people who had enough pain in life.

  9. RA

    05/18/2015 at 3:26 PM

    Oh, and since I can’t edit…

    Yes, you will bring them home with you and then you will have big problems. And it won’t be because they are demons. It will be because you came in not taking care of yourself or respecting them, and either they need help or have anger issues or want to leave. So don’t go bother them, but if you simply have to, learn how to protect yourself, don’t be rude, and if someone asks for help find someone who really knows how to help and see what can be done. And learn how not to take anyone home with you.

    That is what I would say to anyone going to “ghost hunt”. And suggest they think twice if they don’t know what they are doing.

  10. RA

    05/18/2015 at 3:34 PM

    I ask you sincerely. Why is it so important to get them to perform for you? All you have to do is get someone who can hear/speak to them to ask whatever you want to know if you have sincere questions, but if it’s to prove they are there it’s kind of obvious. And to those who don’t want to acknowledge that, it won’t matter what “evidence” you show them. Does it matter if it distresses them further or causes poor creatures who were tortured in life to be tortured/frightened in death?

    There are other ways to communicate without provoking…I have never understood that. If you knock on the door of a living person and she chooses not to answer, or you call someone and s/he doesn’t pick up, don’t you leave/realize the person doesn’t want to talk? I guess you don’t realize what you do to them when you provoke. It is sad and awful:(

    • Greg Newkirk

      05/18/2015 at 4:02 PM

      For the record, I’m right there with you. If you watch the video, you’ll see I was minding my own business. I wasn’t even speaking to any spirits. As far as I’m concerned, I was just along for the ride. For what it’s worth Michael, who was the one doing the talking, actually went back and apologized shortly afterwards.

      • RA

        05/19/2015 at 2:13 PM

        I’m glad to hear that, Greg. I was referring to Chris, who said he would go and would taunt if need be, but I meant all who go and taunt and are disrespectful, or who go unprepared.

        I can assure you that 99 percent (I don’t have exact statistics but am making a general point) of all the spirits you come across are either stuck and need help, think they are stuck and just need some help, (no taunting) have crossed and come back to help or communicate, or they like a place or object and come back after crossing, or are as confused or upset as the living. Oh, and some do have some emotional/mental illness and aren’t going to be rational or fun to be around, just as you would find with living people. But that doesn’t mean anyone deserves to be picked on or abused. I guess I am just saying that those who go taunt and keep coming back just to get a rise out of spirits or get “evidence” to make money or for shows not only put themselves and anyone who goes into the location later into danger, risking taking unpleasant energy home, and are often harming the spirits.

        Contacting them isn’t hard and can help them and their loved ones, but trying to get evidence to prove they are there is a whole different agenda when it’s carried past politely asking and providing help (and I don’t mean some violent exorcism that is more drama than actual help for them) and in’t usually related to actually helping them. It’s just sad to see those in need of help or who just want to be left in peace being harassed and tortured to prove a point or for a show. No wonder some get pretty angry and living people get hurt.

        • Chris Fischer

          05/19/2015 at 2:45 PM

          I guess that not explaining everything in full detail can lead to one being mislead. When I taunt a spirit it is not simply to provide proof but to get a spirit to manifest bringing it into the physical world we are in to make communication more direct. I have been communicating with spirit for a while and when it is necessary and I need to ask a spirit to leave a property or location that they have not responded to when asked in a polite manner it is necessary. I am talking about places that are occupied by families or couples wanting to start a family.
          Additionally what you might consider taunting may be different from how I define it. I am not cursing or demeaning, simply agitating with information my team has researched about the spirit. This has worked for me on many occasions and we have not had a situation where we were not able to clean a home.

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  12. RA

    05/19/2015 at 2:15 PM

    I am glad to hear he apologized! They do remember those who treat them well and those who betray them or are rude, just as anyone else would.

  13. Ves

    05/20/2015 at 4:34 PM

    So, what if ghosts are just some sort of leftover electrical energy of the dead? And that’s why when people are “attacked” they look more like burn marks?

  14. Miriam

    05/21/2015 at 9:48 AM

    Ves… I wonder about this too…what is the nature of these ghosts… electrical? Why the burning feeling? and the colors it leaves?
    I had another experience where that witch “sent” me a demon and he latched on to my left arm. At first I only noticed this huge purple mark on my arm. when I put my finger in to that area, NOT touching the skin, it was a burning sensation. Like a column of blue heat, i might guess to compare. If i touched the purple mark, which resembled a bruise, it had no feeling on the skin, only in the space above it. I asked my clairvoyant friend what she saw ans she could see this ugly ghoul with rotting teeth, some falling out, holding on to my arm. We tried a few things to get it to unhook. The last method worked and he went back to the sender. Once it was not holding on to my arm, my purple area now throbbed with pain. I do believe that when they can leave marks and do these types of contact, they are malevolent. They are making contact but not in the way you might think.
    It took days for that mark to go on me and we could see other things that were also going on, but I think I will reserve that for other conversations.
    The other tiny scratches I got from a visit to her home three months earlier went away in a half of a day.
    This is fascinating to me, not that I want more proof… and do wonder, what they really are, what they are made of,…. for something inside me suggests that perhaps this is a portion of the person/soul and might not be all… but cannot move my mind further on this. Thank you for all this discussion as I am trying to piece some knowledge on this stuff. It is real.

  15. Curious

    05/21/2015 at 12:24 PM

    While I mostly agree with the others here about the unnecessary and rude nature of provoking for the sake of an effect, I kind of have to acknowledge that the hunters ‘taking one for the team’ may be a good thing. Even if they’re bad experiences, anything that could be considered evidence is a positive in this situation.
    People are often too literal, and too religious, about ‘demon scratches’. I kind of like the idea that it’s a concentrated energy effect, and may not even be intentional. Similar to the idea that many poltergheist effects are essentially unconscious psychokinetic phenomena.
    To the person who supposedly got scratched in a place where they ‘practice witchcraft’, first of all thanks for not adding ‘and black magic’. The two are most certainly not the same thing. Secondly, 99% of practices called witchcraft would not have produced that effect. There may not even be any relation at all, but if something was called upon or just came by curious about the magical stuff, it isn’t necessarily malevolent. Just a thought.

    • Miriam

      05/21/2015 at 4:53 PM

      It is something to study from a different angel that is for sure. It is not what is always talked about, yet I also do not think is is so “unconscious”. But the majority of this phenomena is “thoughtforms”.
      https://heartuniverseorg .wordpress .com/2015/05/07/scary-monsters-part-1/ and part 2 talk about this.

      The energy of negative thoughts are Malevolent and that is why is is uncomfortable. It is not a kiss or hug. It is what makes our hair stand on end when anything like that is near, seen or unseen.

      But Curious, you are looking at it in a different light, which is what all this needs. To be able to understand it is to eliminate it from our environment. And all this mental pollution is what keeps unconscious people reacting the same old way, generation after generation.

  16. john

    06/09/2015 at 8:57 PM

    Friday May 5.2015 I was in my apartment and no noise(tv,radio, etc) as its soundproof. I sat down in the bedroom chair and I felt a presence and then I began to hear sleigh bells softly going round and round the room. The bells lasted about a min or two and then just stopped. I didn’t feel scared,startled, or surprised, but actually felt happy right after. I don’t understand this or what it was….Any Ideas? I have no physical health problems either physically or mentally and I am really stumped.

  17. paulette samuels

    06/10/2015 at 2:48 PM

    How would you fell if you were stuck some place for ever and here comes people whom know your their but only come to gather evidence that they are still here and not offer help to get you out. You would not walk by a living person stuck on the road and say sorry not here to help just to watch.

  18. Rodger

    06/11/2015 at 12:43 AM

    use of the term Devil is well over used, I beleive such a term used as it is commonly, is merely a means to point blame on something/someone without facts and without saying there name, but as we are talking about spirits merely thinking to blame the biblical bad guy carries intent and you might as well be calling his name from the roof top.

    a devil is more likely though in this case less so, I believe such entities do not haunt abandoned locations as they are not ghosts, all mythology carries the message that the Demons and Devils (similar entities) roam the land, not haunt a location. but in keeping this simple, I believe this is in essence a poltergeist. some poor soul who in death never left the prison, is still there and s/he was trying to communicate with you, probably to tell you to get out, as often tormented souls seem to take ownership of the location they are trapped in. whether they owned it in life or not.
    it is a tough call as there is no way to know for certain.

  19. Jake Stevens

    08/11/2015 at 5:05 AM

    Those welts look similar to what I get when having an allergic reaction to dust mites. Those also go away in a few hours and they do burn. I wonder if the mechanism of injuring you was that you could have had an allergic reaction to the spectral being’s “touch?” Maybe you have thought of this, but have you thought of putting your back under a black light to see if there is a substance residue? I have heard of the reside lingering for months.

  20. Jake Stevens

    08/11/2015 at 5:06 AM

    Oh thanks for sharing this! This is a compelling documentation and I am sorry it has been difficult for you.

  21. Terri Brown

    01/09/2016 at 11:59 PM

    I am a story writer so my mind tends to fill in gaps and create back story to most inexplicable or strange things almost immediately. Reading this – especially when you explained that they are not like scratches from a nail and people tend to feel like they’ve been pushed before it happens – the thought occurred to me that what if there is a force (not necessarily a malevolent spirit or a demon) but some natural force that is created where spirits congregate. A natural byproduct of all that energy in one place that can get out of control and slowly whip around a room. What if this byproduct is electric and extremely dangerous and a ghost actually just pushed you out of harms way? *goes off to write a short story*

  22. Shanky Dutta

    01/13/2016 at 11:33 PM

    I have faced 3 wield attacks….
    In one my bone of leg in the fingers were having hairline fracture…
    It was like someone stood on my legs and suddenly after sometime it started paining….
    One i saw on my hand suddenly a scratch appeared…. and the wieldest thing was it was 3:30 pm and on the it happened i was wearing some godly thing….

  23. Karen

    01/18/2016 at 1:42 AM

    I’ll start off by stating that I can see into other dimensions eg. angels, demons, spirits, ghosts, auras, etc. But I cannot communicate with them. The sound is always very muffled.
    At my inlaws house there is a male ghost. For some reason he strongly dislikes me, and I suspect it’s because I can see him. One night at around 9pm I came out of the bathroom after taking a shower. I looked up and saw him exiting our room. He grimaced at me and stormed past me. Immediately my leg started burning, at the back just below my butt. It was so sore I cried out. My husband came from the kitchen and I told him what had happened. He took a look and sat staring at my leg in shocked silence.
    There on my leg was a cut. Shallow, but enough to draw blood. This really upset me.
    The next morning I wanted to show my mom-in-law, but the cut was gone. No mark, no scab, no redness, nothing!
    It completely threw me off all my concepts and theories, and left me stumped in many cases.

  24. Jennie Lallier-Rickard

    07/21/2016 at 4:50 PM

    “enraged men in tiny Tapout shirts” lmao!!! Spit up my coffee

  25. Julie Schnider

    07/21/2016 at 10:00 AM

    I, too, was attacked by unseen forces. About 8 years ago I was sitting cross legged in the middle of my queen size bed. Suddenly I felt hands and nails (claws really) on my back and I was flying towards my dresser. The wound on my head was within centimeters of my temple and required nine staples to close. Since that attack, my family and a couple close friends have devoted our time and energy to learning and helping others understand what it is they could be experiencing. Thanks for sharing your story. It’s inspiring.

  26. Helen Lesley

    07/21/2016 at 5:16 PM

    A team member in out group,mayo we affectionately call ‘the witch’ had an inverted cross scratched into her next when we were investigating The Priest House in Sussex a few years ago. The team had split into 2 small groups. She was upstairs with 3 other team members when we heard loud talking and then the whole group coming down and she asked if we could look at her next. Sure enough, there it was. She said it felt like it was burning too.

    I have been touched inappropriately in the Admiralty wing at Bodmin Gaol. There were 4 of us; 2 men and 2 ladies. Andy and Dicky said they would stay outside in case we needed them, but for us to go into the male only Admiralty wing. Needless to say, we called for them to come in, and the presence backed off!

  27. Gerard Olszewski

    07/21/2016 at 5:53 PM

    More and more I am becoming totally convinced that there is a severe shortage of good manicurists in the afterlife. I wonder how the “barbers and hair stylists are making out?

  28. Marisol

    08/08/2016 at 9:24 AM

    My husband has been scratched 3 times in the last 3 months – the last 2 times being yesterday and two weeks prior to that. I searched the internet trying to find a ‘logical’ explanation and came across this article. Like you, I was EXTREMELY skeptical of the supernatural until a few years ago when we started experiencing the presence of SOMETHING in our home.

    It started with the door knobs and closet doors, proceeded with the cabinets being opened, doors slamming, sofa cushions bundled on the floor, items disappearing and appearing a few days later, to a cup being thrown, and now the scratches. NOW we believe and respect others’ stories.

    It’s getting quite scary now, especially for my husband who’s the ‘scratchee’, not only because you can’t see the culprit, but because it makes you wonder what else it’s capable of. We’ve gotten to the point where we threw out our wooden knife block that we had on top of our kitchen counter and stored the knives in a drawer. We’re totally baffled by all this. It’s something that you kind of get used to, but still freak out every time something happens.

    We had a paranormal activity group visit our home a couple of years ago and they did detect a lot of activity. They detailed their findings in a report that they handed to us later on, which included a CD of the goings-on when we all went outside for 20 minutes. Of course, even though we’ve experienced what we’ve experienced, we were a little bit uneasy about the whole paranormal group coming to our home because we didn’t know whether we should trust their work. However, we later thought about it and figured…we KNOW that there IS something other than us there, so why wouldn’t we believe them? AND they did all this without charging us a penny or promoting anything at all. So, we came to the realization that they really had nothing to gain in exaggerating the situation we were (and still are) living.

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